At this time, we’ve the distinct pleasure of interviewing Tony Schiena, a person of many skills and accomplishments. Tony’s journey is as dynamic as it’s spectacular, starting along with his time as an intelligence operator in South Africa. Transitioning from covert operations to the worldwide stage, he has efficiently leveraged his experience in safety and protection, turning into a outstanding authorities protection contractor.
Along with his work in safety, Tony has additionally made a reputation for himself on this planet of leisure, showcasing his abilities as an actor. Presently, he’s the CEO of MOSAIC, a number one group in its discipline. Be a part of us as we delve into Tony’s fascinating profession, exploring his insights and experiences from the realms of intelligence, protection, and Hollywood.
Tony Schiena, a former South African intelligence operator turned authorities protection contractor and actor, is the CEO of MOSAIC
1. What initially drew you to the worlds of espionage, performing, and AI know-how?
I wasn’t drawn to it. It was drawn to me. I used to be learning worldwide commerce and legislation, hoping to specialise in legislation and doubtlessly turn into a maritime lawyer. I used to be recruited by my legislation professor. A mentor of mine within the intelligence world would say to me that I must get out of this “GAME”, as in the future it can kill us. He would say to me that I ought to go act. I listened to him and I didn’t as I ended up doing each and that’s the place some complexity arises.
Individuals will say how will you be a spy and an actor however they fail to comprehend that once I was a spy, no one, not even my household knew that. Now I’m within the personal world and occur to be in an period of privatization which is clear with PMC’s (Non-public Navy Contractors) enjoying main roles in conflicts and wars. There’s nothing personal about me, I’m the face of my firm and made a definite choice at one level to come back out of the darkish and promote my companies. The performing half is totally separate. That’s why I name “Tony-time”, my time to go play..
2. Are you able to share a memorable expertise out of your time working as a spy that feels prefer it might have been straight out of a film?
There are too many to say, generally actuality is stranger than fiction.My firm MOSAIC is an elite disaster administration and protection intelligence group however generally offense is the perfect protection and we’ve carried out that at instances, we’ve gone up towards main governments.
3. How do you stability the secretive nature of espionage with the general public persona required in performing?
It’s tough however in the long run we’re dealing at degree the place the shoppers we’ve are past worrying about that. We ship an exemplary service that no different firm can compete with. I feel if I used to be a performer within the circus they wouldn’t even thoughts, we’ve their belief. MOSAIC’s employees, is likewise, a reduce above the remainder so its not essentially me doing all of the work though I oversee and approve every part.
4. What abilities have you ever discovered to be transferable between your roles as a spy, actor, and CEO?
Spy’s lie, actors fake or in different phrases, “lie”. It’s high-stakes pretending, there’s no successive takes to get it proper, it’s one shot and that’s it. We now have discovered ourselves in these positions the place we understand the other facet of the desk is mendacity, we’re mendacity so we’re all attempting to out-lie or out maneuver one another.
5. As an AI firm CEO, how do you suppose synthetic intelligence can profit international intelligence businesses?
We’re not an AI firm. The arrival of AI is comparatively knew. We’re engaged on incorporating it and all the time staying forward the curve. Our head of cyber is former NSA and still have a former CIA DS&T (Directorate of Science and Know-how) agent so we’ve the correct experience for implementation.
6. In your performing profession, have you ever ever performed a task that carefully mirrored your real-life experiences as a spy?
I’ve really stayed away from it. It’s too apparent. I’m a fan of darkish, edgy, violent films…fortunately my intelligence profession hasn’t mirrored that too carefully.
7. What impressed you to begin an AI firm, and the way does your background in espionage affect your enterprise methods?
Once more, I don’t have an AI firm. Earlier than, it was all authorities and now it’s a mixture of authorities, company in addition to HNWI (high-net-worth people). We now have numerous verticals within the firm, together with a legislation agency and a coaching academy. Espionage background has you frequently evaluating and predicting, similar to the appearance of AI and the place that’s going. MOSAIC has extraordinarily skilled and efficient intelligence analysts who work virtually 24 hours to judge, assess, and predict. That is the place AI will play a formidable function in the way forward for intelligence gathering.
8. Given your background in espionage, How do you handle confidentiality and data safety in your AI agency?
I’ve remnants of my beginnings that stay, and therefore with extraordinarily delicate instances, I nonetheless silo even my most trusted folks however typically, we’ve a system of checks and balances / over-sight in addition to know-how to make sure the safety of delicate particulars and shopper data. This know-how consists of safe transmittance/add / momentary storage and discarding of data, which incorporates subtle cellular phone know-how and programs of protocols.

9. What has been probably the most difficult side of transitioning between your roles in espionage, performing, and know-how entrepreneurship?
Between espionage (or quite disaster administration/safety) and performing would clarify how they will co-exist as they’re inherently contradictory in phrases, haha. Appearing is a interest, a really enjoyable interest and a possible future retirement job. Intelligence and safety is my livelihood and my world. Know-how is the way in which of the long run and might’t be ignored or you may be left behind. We’re in fixed discussions with AI programmers, who’re a lot youthful than me and MOSAIC senior employees, in order that’s a bit difficult as we have to re-educate ourselves and be taught a brand new “language”.
10. Are you able to describe a undertaking or product out of your AI firm that feels prefer it might have been data/intelligence or know-how?
That will likely be going into the programs we’re discussing and doubtlessly creating. What I’ll say is that within the collation of data/intelligence, in the mean time, a human remains to be wanted to disseminate and interpret what AI has offered, however it will change sooner or later.
11. How do you employ your performing abilities to current and market your AI merchandise?
We’re at present not advertising and marketing an AI product. As I discussed, the appearance of AI remains to be new.
12. What recommendation would you give to somebody fascinated with pursuing careers in any of the three fields you might be concerned in?
All are extraordinarily demanding and aggressive jobs. For these pursuing a profession within the intelligence sector or in performing, “don’t get caught lying!”. Do what excites you and when that pleasure ends, and it’s doable, you are able to do one thing new that excites you. If not, add one thing new and thrilling, even when it’s a interest, it can invigorate what’s turn into somewhat uninteresting.
I do many excessive sports activities and preserve in search of new journey missions. Final 12 months I summated Mount Everest, and this 12 months I accomplished the “toughest race on earth,” the MARATHON DES SABLES within the Sahara desert. All these adventures invigorate me and improve my focus and productiveness at work.
13. How has the panorama of AI influenced fashionable espionage, in your view?
It can affect data gathering and different parts of espionage drastically. It can affect so many points of our lives.
14. Trying forward, what new frontier in AI are you most excited to discover along with your firm?
The programs we’re at present discussing and growing. They are going to drastically simplify and improve productiveness.